is this free?

While its in beta it will be free.

Hey Zan Its me! If u dont know. My name starts with a C! cya later!

Willl the real game have a fee?

Yes the real game will have a fee.

So can you estimate how much the fee will be?

No i cant. I am not even sure if we should charge fee, sell stuff in game or ads.

Fee sounds most direct and fair at the moment.

nexxon does the ingame selling thing with nexxon points. When you see people buffed with their cool stuff it encourages you to purchase nexxon points. I reccomend that.

I don't think it could work in an RTS that well. People that pay more would simply win making the game not fun for people that don't.

I am open to talk about the payment system when the game is again in beta and has a player base. For now I am not in it for the money and don't want to think about it.

we could have "help jobs" like creating renders or somthing like that, insted of a fee we have a job to help with the game. if your good at programing you program patches or if your good at drawing you draw a ship ( in good quality ) take a picture and put it on a forum were a renderer picks it up and renders it. if you cant do this you could be a moniter and moniter the game for people using cheats ( that are giving the player an advantge over other people ) and peaple using curse words in chat rooms and the rest get paid for by adds and recomend it to frends. this would pay for maintaince costs and filter who are really into the game from others and give the ones who are really into it special demos and other things which would encorage activity.

Yeah, it would kind of be like an employee discount thing for the people that contribute to the game. That REALLY is a good idea Graf!!!! =)

AWSOME! SOMBODY LIKES MY IDEA! I CONTRIBUTED TO THE GAME!!!!!!!!!! :)

treeform, what do you think about the idea?

Maybe betatesters can upgrade their account. I'm not one but I want to give them credit. =)

For now I am not in it for the money and don't want to think about it.

right, but will you consider my idea?

ok, anymore ideas?

He said we have to wait till the new beta is out to discuss payment.

ohh, he could have been more direct about it.

i changed my flag why didnt it work?

arrg! my flag hasent changed! help!

Your flag changed....

i recommend something similar to "dark orbit" (el cheapo space game) but it has the ability to pick up the urandium or something in-game from drops or random spawns and stuff and this urandium is also available to buy for $X amount of money :) so it give the players that dont want to pay to have a chance or woops this urandium is only used to buy the elite of elite gear depending on how much you want to spend

virtual cash is also there to buy the el-cheapo stuff and other assortments of ingame assets

btw theres like a $10000 prize for the best of the best but are you willing to pay?

with super mega ultra starships creaming ur ass every time you decide to adventure its not so great :(

... what do you think?

this is really not an RPG so cash in game really does not matter. For every match you start out basically from zero.

the problem with "in game" cash is that not everybody will want to spend money getting things but will just want to play the game and have fun and not be creamed by people who invest in the game, which is a big problem with all the multi millon dollar companies. to have fun with their game you have to pay in some way, via membierships, monthly fees etc. you would have to have adds or people help to maintain the game but keep it free of fees. scince the game would be free and fun alot of people would play it. most games start out this way but then get power hungry and start charging. eventualy people stop playing and the game falls into ruins. an a exemple would be the fall of world of warcraft and the rise of free games that are still in there infant stages like runescape. the reason this hasn't happend to mmorts is because there aren't many. this repetative cycle causes a chain of destruction and destroys really good games.

1. "the fall of world of warcraft"

WoW is the fastest growing mmo. In fact it almost dwarfs all other MMO's combined in player count.

2. "scince the game would be free and fun alot of people would play it"

2aw was never meant to be "free" - it still is a hobby project - but we have to some how keep the server running. We will not be charging any time soon though.

3. "this repetative cycle causes a chain of destruction and destroys really good games."

I don't see such a thing. Just games getting old. New games coming out. Old games going away.

ok....... wow is slowing down...... i'm talking about club penguin etc. with the game getting old and over priceed. but i guess i got carried away.........

you could have adds....... but i think you should keep it free for atleast until it gets popular then start feeing newbies or a monthly or (perferably) one time fee for people who just joined.

I don't want ads.

I agree. Ads would kill the game. Although I think that those of us who helped through the beta and/or stayed on the forum through this beginning should be able to play for free or at a discounted rate. You know, due to all the support we gave the game through this tough time =)

Is any body here?:(

Yes, we are all still trolling the forums even though half the topics are obviously dead or necro'd...

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

how much longer? =)

much much longer. lol i don't know maybe a week or two. i havent talked to treef in... a month

If you had a chance to play the game before the rewrite you would understand why "paid points" for buffed cool stuff is a big negative, so chill, wait till the game is out of epic redo phase then your suggestions will have a bigger impact. I personally don't want to be in a system with 5 super dreadnoughts or something because someone paid $5 for points. It's a VERY tactical game.

yes i know, i did not recomend points for that reason, i have not played myself. :(

i think everyone that has stuck with this for a while should get to play for free because while some people bailed we stayed with it, by the way when did you join Wu?

I suggest using points to buy aesthetic changes to that player.

ad's = fail

micro payment point system i feel is kinda iffy. it creates 2 classes of users pay to play and broke. if implimented i'd like it to only be asthetic stuff or $.

one time payment idea i like.

monthly payment i don't think is a good idea, i play pwi and atleast 1/4 of their players are their because they can't afford the monthly payments of wow anymore.

multi payment like say 3 months for $20 wouldn't be too bad.

free 3 month subscription w/ purchase of the box game.

but what about the peeps who have stuck with this for almost 2 years.............. do we have to pay?

Can be payed trought telephone bill?or somenthing not involving credit card?

Telephone bill - probably not.

pay pal?

Yes i would probably include pay pal.

Ok. I am posting from a I phone 3g s!

good for you :P